- 1B Mark Teixeira & P Ron Mahay traded to Atlanta Braves for C/1B Jarrod Saltalamacchia and nonroster SS Elvis Andrus, LHP Matt Harrison, LHP Beau Jones and RHP Neftali Feliz [ Link ]
- P Eric Gagne traded to Boston Red Sox for P Kason Gabbard, OF David Murphy, & OF Engel Beltre [ Link ]
- 2B Ian Kinsler activated from DL
- P AJ Murray recalled from AAA
- IF Desi Relaford designated for assignment [ Link ]
Mark Teixeira: Show me the Money!
As the trade was made official, a story popped up on the Dallas Morning News site that said that before Tex was traded to the Braves, the Rangers offered him a contract extension of eight years, $140 Million. That comes out to $17.5 Million a year. He turned it down.
That makes me think that when he hits free agency after the 2008 season, Scott Boras will start – START with a value of $20 million a year, and won’t take less.
NOW I think this picture is how a lot of fans will see Mark Teixeira, especially given his choice of agent, and the turning down of this kind of money. That’s similar to what Juan Gonzalez turned down with Detroit. Better hope that lightning bolt doesn’t hit again.
Gagne to Sox
The word is out on Eric Gagne going to Boston. Apparently Gagne waived his no trade clause to go there and will be a setup man. Additionally, the $2.5m in performance bonuses were guaranteed by the Red Sox with Texas paying $400,000 of that, Boston the other 2.1 Mil.
The three names coming back are P Kason Gabbard, OF David Murphy, & OF Engle Beltre. Here is a news story on the Rangers site about this.
With Otsuka on the DL, I wonder who is our closer now? Not only that how the 25 man roster will shake out for tonight’s game in Cleveland.
Mark Teixeira Trade Finalized
Well, it’s done. The trade is official. It’s quite the haul – we got more than had been reported. While I can’t say I’m thrilled at losing a player like Teixeira, I have to say that the haul was far more impressive than was expecting.
Leaving the Rangers:
1B Mark Teixeira
RP Ron Mahay
Returning to Rangers:
C/1B Jarrod Saltamacchia
SS Elvis Andrus (18 yr old A ball, compared to Derek Jeter)
P Netfali Feliz
P Matt Harrison
P Beau Jones
The pitchers are all minor leagues, but are all considered to be really good prospects, not throwaways. As I said before in my other comments, I’m not the best at breaking down individual players. I strongly suggest you check out Jamey Newberg’s report from this morning where he breaks down the players that are inbound. Except for Beau Jones, who was just announced as part of the deal.
I have a poll on the main page of my site about this, where you can weigh in on your opinion.
Gagne to Red Sox?
Ken Rosenthal says that Eric Gagne is going to be traded to the Sox. That’s a tad of a eyebrow raiser – the Sox have a great closer. Gagne has to waive his no trade to go there. Would they put Papelbon as a setup guy? I can’t see Gagne waiving unless he’s the full time closer.
Then there’s that talk about Gagne re-signing here again in the offseason. I wonder if that will happen.
UPDATE @ 2:10PM: TR Sullivan has something up about it now here. Also read where the rumoured players coming back total three. They are 17 year-old five-tool outfielder Engel Beltre (Buster Olney report), as well as Kason Gabbard (Ken Rosenthal), as well as possibly David Murphy (also Rosenthal).
New look for the site
If you are seeing this message, then you are seeing the new look for my site. The look that I used to have was not one I was terribly happy with from the moment I launched it. A few weeks back, Six Apart, the folks who make the software that drives this site (Movable Type) launched a new v4 beta. It’s got a boatload of new features that would make the way I do this site an awful lot easier.
One of the things in the new software package was a bunch of new themes, and I took the opportunity to use that as a key to redesign the site. This is mostly stock software actually – the theme has some customizations (the header graphic, the baseballs), but is mostly “out of the box”. Their “out of the box” is a lot better than it used to be. :) Big thanks to Thijs Leenders for his help with the graphics.
One of the larger more updated sections is my seat selector section. It’s something I started on my own in 1999 on this site, years before the Rangers did it themselves. But this new version lets me cut a lot of waste out of the site. You see in the old version I had three editions of the seat selector (regular, large, extra large). There was an HTML page for each version, because I used to show the images as a pop-up. There are 177 sections in the ballpark, with another 25 or so hidden areas, so there’s roughly 600 HTML pages. This new version does it very differently, so I could drop the popups, saving myself conversdion of 600 HTML pages. Plus the new version of the site just looks a lot cooler.
I’ve cleaned up text formatting, just done a lot of cool stuff to make everything look nicer. I hope you think the same.
One change though – if you were reading the site’s updates via an RSS reader, you may need to resubscribe, as the rss feed url has changed depending on which format you were using in the past. Additionally, if you want to leave comments, you will have to log in and create an account. For some reason Typekey isn’t working, that could be a bug, as this is still technically beta software. If you have any questions about using the new software, let me know via email.
I’ll also be looking at the forums and the gallery to see if I can style them the same and make ’em look more like the “main site”. I also need to fix the captcha issue in the forums, as well as here. Edit: Nevermind – fixed it on the forums. Now I need to fix it in MT.
Thanks again for visiting. Glad you took the time to come.
Reactions to Tex Trade
Been reading around the net for reactions to the Tex trade. As expected, they’re all over the place, depending on whom you ask. One of my favorites was over at USS Mariner, who had this to say about the trade:
A total home run for the Rangers here. Teixeira is a good but not great player, and in return for a year and a half of his services at not-bargain rates, they extracted one of the best young catchers in baseball, a very high upside middle infielder, and reportedly got a couple other players of value. A+ for Jon Daniels. Teixeira won’t help the Braves as much as they think he will, and the upgrade from Salty to T-Rex isn’t worth the price they paid. But John Schuerholz is pretty close to being beyond reproach, so that’s all I’ll say about that.
USSM also had something nice to say about the Lofton trade, too.
Tim McMahon over at the Rangers DMN blog called the trade “OK”, saying
This trade doesn’t make you say “Wow!” like a James Loney-Clayton Kershaw-Andre Ethier deal. But I trust it was the best deal available, and it accomplished the goal of getting at least two (maybe three) players who can be part of the Rangers’ core when they’re ready to contend a few years from now.
David O’Brien of the Atlanta Constitution seems to think this is the best trade since sliced bread, really going head over heels about it with:
It’s the most significant midseason trade for the Braves in 14 years, since they got first baseman Fred McGriff from San Diego on July 18, 1993.
Beerleaguer.com (a Philles blog) called the trade a good move for the Braves, and even had something nice to say about Ron Mahay. They did take a knee jerk reaction regarding return of pitching in this move, though.
Not one, but two, significant acquisitions for the Braves’ playoff run. Everyone knows what Teixeira will bring, but Mahay is a nice veteran complimentary part and typical of the kind of move John Schuerholz has made in the past in that he gets some pitching as a throw-in.
Will Schaffer at Chop-n-Change (a Braves fan blog) called the trade “a horrible deal” with this:
it was a horrible deal because the Braves did not land CJ Wilson or Eric Gagne and as more details have come back I have started questioning this deal even more.
….this is one of those deals that we are going to look back on six years down the road and second-guess everything about it.
Good call on his part wanting CJ Wilson, but he wasn’t going anywhere, and I can’t recall Gagne being part of a trade package anywhere.
More to come from elsewhere I’m sure, but I’m still surprised we haven’t seen an announcement of a press conference from the Rangers about this move. The trade is still not announced on the Rangers or Braves sites in their official press release areas. (It’s 4:40PM CST on Monday as I write this).
My thoughts on Tex Trade
OK, Teixeira has been traded. I can’t say that surprises me in the least. Even with the Boras factor ignored, I don’t think many Ranger fans thought he was going to stay here. Those comments he made a couple of weeks ago regarding “fun conversations with Baltimore in a year and a half” were pretty damning. I can’t speak to his “happiness” here, as I’m sure we’d get the Bull Durham lines about wanting to help the team win, etc… But I think most everybody seems to think it was inevitable that he would be moved.
So OK, that leaves a few possibilities. First, we keep him through his final arb year of 2008 and let him walk at the end for draft picks. That was so seriously not likely to happen, I can’t even fathom it being thought about. Second, we trade him. If you trade him, that gives you three realistic options. Trade deadline now. Trade deadline in 2008, and the off season between 07 & 08. If you are going to trade a player like Mark Teixeira, you want to maximize the value you get for him. That’s actually what you generally want to do in any trade, but especially for something like this.
So OK, we’re trading him. You go out and see who wants to take a player who will likely get $12 million in arbitration next year, the final year of his contract, where it’s widely expected he will go out on the market and not just automatically resign. That kind of rules out trading at the deadline in 2008, since it would be for just two months, and you’re not going to get a ton of value if you trade him 12 months from now. I also don’t think the offseason is the best time, the best time to trade him if you’re trading him at all is now. At least this way we can have a handle on what other pieces we might need in 2008 when we go into the offseason in October.
OK, we’ve arrived at now being the optimum time to trade him being now. So you go out there and see who wants him? While he is under control for next season, as I said he’s arb eligible, which means he’s likely making $12 million next year. That fact alone limits some of the teams. Plus not everyone will need the player as they have others there already. So that narrows it down. The widely talked about teams in this trade scenario were the Braves, the Angels, and the Dodgers. Heard the Diamondbacks in the last couple of days, but my gut says that wasn’t a realistic option.
So OK. You then look down what each team offers. I know most people will scream “pitching please” as a return. As would I, but one has to be realistic about it. Are these teams going to send us their best pitcher or pitching prospect for Tex? No, they’re not. So you look at the best option for all of them. For the Angels, the best option for pitching I saw was Ervin Santana. Eh. For the Dodgers, the word was that the Rangers wanted Clayton Kershaw. By all accounts, that would have been a spectacular move. But LA didn’t want to give him up. I probably wouldn’t have, either. That left the Braves and their package.
There’s also the issue of trading Tex inside our own division to the Angels, something that I would have a hard time dealing with. It’s always annoying when you trade a fan favorite and a good player away, but it’s worse inside your own division. We would have to have been absolutely bowled over with an offer from the Angels to trade him there. That didn’t happen, so I’m glad about that.
So Teixeira is traded away with Ron Mahay for four players. One major leaguer, and three prospects. By all accounts the two named ones are great prospects (not marginal ones), and the fourth is unknown yet, rumored to be another pitcher. First, let me say breaking down individual players is not my strength. That is a strength of Jamey Newberg, so I’ll defer to him on the actual playing abilities of each of the guys we get. But I do have a few words.
Inbound we get a switch hitting catcher Jarrod Saltamacchia. I kept hearing that he can play some first base. In trading away a player of Mark Teixeira’s caliber for a player who is primarily a catcher, the immediate first thought is What about Gerald Laird?. There was some talk a day or two ago that we were looking at trading Laird & Mahay to the Cubs for Felix Pie. I find that hard to believe – while Pie is supposed to be a stud, I can’t see where that trade makes much sense from the Cubs standpoint. Anyway the question will be where will Salt play in Texas? Laird is our front line catcher, and we did just bring in Adam Melhuse, so we don’t really need another catcher, although Salt is a switch hitter with a lot of power. Do we play Salt at first base? Does that bump Wilkkkkkkerson back to part time duties in the OF? We’ll see.
The others are infielder Elvis Andrews, who is supposed to be a very good infielder, but he’s at A ball, so he’s awhile away from making a big impact. There’s also pitching prospect Neftali Feliz, who has some decent numbers, he is in rookie ball. Even further away. The fourth player is unknown, but supposedly pitcher Matt Harrison, but there’s some injury concerns, which is why he’s likely to be a PTBNL in this deal.
As for Ron Mahay, while he’s pitched OK for us, I can’t see him being here super long term, either – and he’s what 37 I think? Nice guy, but I don’t think will be seriously missed.
Is this a blockbuster trade? No, probably not. However, all things considered, we probably got the best we could get. Yeah, there’s some question marks about the minor leaguers, but when isn’t there about minor leaguers – honestly? You’re not getting a team to give up a front line starting pitcher here, so this is probably the best you can do. My overall opinion is probably “eh”, but I think that’s more based off of the fact that you knew Tex was going to go anyway, not the players back. Once those remarks about “fun conversations” came out a few weeks back, you kind of knew this day was coming, and that’s where my feelings come from. I’m OK with the players in return, just annoyed we had to trade him in the first place.
Why did I write all this? I’m just tired of knee-jerk reactions of people in call in shows who say things like “No major league pitching? This automatically sucks”. I detest sports call in shows, because most of the people who call in generally have no friggin clue about the larger picture. This post won’t change that behaviour, but at least will get some steam out of me. I wish Steve Busby was back on the KRLD post game call in. I loved how he would mock people calling in with that kind of attitude. I miss that. Busby had some balls on the post game show.
I do have to admit to being curious what Michael Young’s remarks about the trade will be.
Teixeira & Mahay to Braves
It appears that Tex is done. Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the deal to move Teixeira out of town is done. The word is that Tex will be going with Ron Mahay for C/1B Jarrod Saltamacchia, Class A shortop Elvis Andrews, and two unnamed pitching prospects.
I see the Ticket howling already about not getting major league pitching. More details as they come out.
The Braves are on the verge of acquiring Rangers first baseman Mark Teixeira.
The deal is done, pending a review of the medical records of the players involved, according to major-league sources.
The Braves will receive Teixeira and left-handed reliever Ron Mahay.
The Rangers will receive catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Class A shortstop Elvis Andrus and two pitching prospects.
UPDATE #1: One of the minor league pitchers is Netfali Feliz. There’s more info about him here and here.
G105: Rangers swept out by Royals, 10-0
The less said about this mess, the better.
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